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stretchy_mcslapnuts
08-12-2007, 09:10 PM
before but need more opinions)? I work for a company that lays out and designs residential subdivision projects. My boss is the owner of the company, and we've been lifelong friends.He has worked out a deal with a developer wherein instead of charging our normal fees for designing his project, the developer is going to give my boss 3 lots in the development. EACH of these lots will be valued at approximately 150,000-200,000 dollars.My boss has said he is going to outright GIVE me one of the three lots. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this so that it minimizes the tax hit on both of us... My boss and I have a side company we set up this year, an LLC with he and I as the only partners. Its purpose is to buy and develop real estate.So, my questions are:1. If my boss gives me a lot, is it considered a "bonus," and thus taxable as income, or is it a "gift?" What are the tax implications of the latter, if that's what it is?2. Would there be any advantage to (see more below)Question 2, continued... Would there be any advantage in my boss deeding my lot over to our LLC? Or would the tax rate be even higher?Question 3. Another alternative my boss is considering is for the developer to deed him 2 lots, and then deed the other lot to me. This way, my boss is not involved in the transaction of me receiving my lot. Is there any tax advantage to doing it that way?We're just looking for legal strategies to effect this transfer that would cause the least amount of tax hit to both of us. Any advice or other options would be appreciated!Wayne Z... What if my boss "gifted" the lot to my wife, instead of to me?PLEASE UNDERSTAND... Neither me nor my boss is trying to "get away" with anything! We're simply looking for the best LEGAL strategy to minimize our tax burden. We're not interested in violating any laws.

PepsiLime
08-13-2007, 04:21 PM
I don't think there's any way out of this. Normally, "gifts" are not taxable to the person who receives it, but in this case the lots would take the place of the fee. So your boss has income equal to the value of the lots at the time he receives them. He possibly could "gift" you a lot, and there would be no tax affect to you, but the IRS would probably challenge it and say that it was a bonus. You might win, and you might lose. If it is a "gift" to you (which if he's not in the habit of giving you a bonus after a successful job, it could wind up as a gift, considering you've been lifelong friends) then there is no tax to you for receiving the gift, but there would be taxes when you sold the lot. If you held the lot for more than 1 year it would be taxed to you as long-term capital gain, which is taxed at a maximum rate of 15% (5% for those in the 10 or 15% brackets). Your boss would also have capital gains taxes as well if he sold his lots for more than they were worth when he receives them. I don't think you both can avoid taxes, but I have given you my best idea to minimize them.

Wayne Z
08-15-2007, 02:09 AM
As the lot is compensation for services, it is taxed as ordinary income.An employer (or vendor) can not give "gifts" to employees.You be taxed as if you received $150-200k in cash and then bought a lot.

waggy_33
08-15-2007, 10:13 AM
This would be taxable as compensation to you. You would pay tax on the value when you receive it and you would need to make a section 83b election to be able to obtain capital gain treatment on the increase in value when you sell it.

CPA/PFS
08-16-2007, 03:02 AM
You have strong answers provided to you.Your solutions fall under the "bartering" category. It is an exchange of goods for services rendered. As such, it is taxable as ordinary income ... to you.It matters not whether you call it a gift ... or tranfer it to your wife (that would be deemed income to you and a gift from you to her covered by the Unlimited Marital deduction as long as she is a citizen).As to the impact of having the fee (value of the lots transferred) paid to your LLC ... that depends on whether your LLC elected to be taxed as a partnership or a corporation and then whether the corporation elected S corp status.